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How to look at your data — Jeff Huber (Chroma) + Jason Liu (567)

Aug 6, 2025 · 19:23

Jeff Huber (Chroma CEO) and Jason Liu argue that AI practitioners should look at their data—both inputs and outputs—with fast evals and conversation analysis to systematically improve retrieval and product decisions. Huber advocates for fast evals using golden datasets of query-document pairs over public benchmarks or expensive LLM judges, showing how synthetic queries aligned to real user behavior can empirically compare embedding models; in a Weights & Biases chatbot case study, Voyage 3 large outperformed text-embedding-3-small and others. Jason Liu focuses on outputs: extract structured metadata from conversations, cluster them to find segments, then compare KPIs like performance across clusters to prioritize what to fix, build, or ignore—for example, if 40% of conversations involve data visualization and the agent performs poorly, invest in better plotting tools. This population-level analysis enables impact-weighted decisions, turning vague metrics like 0.5 factuality into actionable insights by segment. The episode emphasizes that retrieval improvements are foundational, and once you have users, looking at conversation structure drives a data-driven product roadmap.

The State of MCP observability: Observable.tools — Alex Volkov and Benjamin Eckel, W&B and Dylibso

Jun 20, 2025 · 16:56

Alex Volkov (Weights & Biases) and Benjamin Eckel (Dylibso) argue that MCP-based AI agents create observability blind spots, and that OpenTelemetry-based distributed tracing, combined with community initiatives like observable.tools, can provide end-to-end visibility. They show how Weave's MCP support and mcp.run's upcoming OTel export enable tracing across client and server, using context propagation via MCP's metadata to stitch traces together. Volkov shares a meta story where Claude Opus 4 used MCP to automatically fix its own observability code, discovering and querying a support bot without human intervention. The episode calls for tool builders to adopt OTel and join semantic conventions efforts for agent observability.

Productionizing GenAI Models – Lessons from the world's best AI teams: Lukas Biewald

Oct 23, 2024 · 22:36

Lukas Biewald, founder of Weights and Biases, shares lessons from productionizing GenAI models, emphasizing that while AI is easy to demo, it is hard to productionize. He illustrates this with a personal project building a custom Alexa-like device using LLaMA and Whisper, where accuracy improved from 0% to 98% through prompt engineering, switching to Mistral, and fine-tuning with QLoRA. Biewald argues that tracking experiments (including failures) is critical for reproducibility and collaboration, and that a robust evaluation framework—beyond 'testing by vibes'—is essential for iterating and shipping v2. He notes that 70% of the audience had LLM apps in production, yet many lack solid evaluations, and recommends starting with lightweight prototypes and incorporating end-user feedback.

Judging LLMs: Alex Volkov

Sep 9, 2024 · 18:39

Alex Volkov, as an LLM judge from 2034, humorously judges AI engineers on their development practices, emphasizing the importance of tracing, iterative prompt engineering, and robust evaluation pipelines. He finds Daniel guilty of deploying without logging, Sasha guilty of premature fine-tuning without prompt iteration, and Morgan guilty of ignoring AI news—commuted to attending ThursdAI. Francisco’s overreliance on programmatic evals leads to a legal loss, while Maxime is 'awesome' for using Weights & Biases Weave. Alex concludes with a primer on evaluation methods: programmatic, human-in-the-loop, and LLM-as-judge, stressing the need to validate validators and create custom criteria. He promotes Weave for tracing and evals, and ThursdAI for staying updated.