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Creating Agents that Co-Create — Karina Nguyen, OpenAI
Apr 30, 2025 · 24:22
Karina Nguyen, an AI researcher at OpenAI and former Anthropic researcher, discusses two major AI scaling paradigms—next-token prediction (pretraining) and reinforcement learning on chain of thought—that shift AI from narrow tools to collaborative agents that co-create. Pretraining builds world understanding by predicting the next token, but hard tasks like math and creative writing require chain of thought reasoning, scaled with OpenAI’s O1 model. Post-training via RLHF and synthetic data enables rapid iteration, and the next stage is co-innovators: agents with reasoning, tool use, long context, and creativity. Nguyen shares product lessons from developing ChatGPT and Claude: 100K context via file uploads, ChatGPT Tasks for scheduled reminders that scale with model capabilities, and Canvas as a flexible interface for co-writing, coding, and research that can morph into an IDE, a tutor, or a data scientist. She envisions a future of invisible software creation where AI generates personalized, multimodal outputs on the fly, reducing reliance on clicking links, and the interface becomes a blank canvas that adapts to user intent.

Principles for Prompt Engineering - Karina Nguyen (Claude Instant @ Anthropic)
Oct 20, 2023 · 55:31
Karina Nguyen, an engineer on Anthropic's Claude, presents principles for effective prompt engineering, treating it as a creative writing process requiring iteration. She advises using XML tags, placing instructions at the end of long prompts (improving accuracy), and decomposing questions to improve faithfulness over chain-of-thought. She covers reducing hallucinations by asking Claude to hedge or quote sources, and using self-consistency and contrastive examples for labeling. Nguyen explains generating evaluation datasets with Claude by splitting documents into multiple-choice questions, and notes that for long-document QA, asking at the end outperforms the beginning. She distinguishes Claude (larger, smarter) from Claude Instant (cheaper, faster, better at math and code), and predicts prompt engineering will remain essential for complex tasks.
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